# Placeholder vs Default

**URL:** <https://community.silverfin.com/t/placeholder-vs-default/27>\
**Category:** Templates\
**Tags:** input, attribute\_default, attribute\_placeholde\
**Created:** [January 25, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.silverfin.com/t/placeholder-vs-default/27 "2017-01-25T14:42:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![s.devers](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.silverfin.com/s.devers/32/38_2.png) [@s.devers](https://community.silverfin.com/u/s.devers)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.silverfin.com/t/placeholder-vs-default/27/1 "2017-01-25T14:42:39Z")

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Dans une zone de texte {% input … as:text %} je sais mettre un texte “d’aide” via l’argument “placeholder” (texte qui ne s’imprimera pas - contrairement à l’argument “default”).

Mon texte d’aide doit reprendre plusieurs lignes (une liste avec puces). Exemple:

- Écarts de conversion : influence sur le résultat
- Achats / ventes d’actions
- Rachat de parts propres
- Fusion, scission, liquidation,…

Quand j’utilise l’argument “placeholder”, tout s’affiche à la suite (Exemple: Écarts de conversion : influence sur le résultat \* Achats / ventes d’actions \* Rachat de parts propres \* Fusion, scission, liquidation,…"

Si par contre j’utilise l’argument “default”, il veut bien faire des retours à la ligne.

Comment puis-je combiner un placeholder et les retours à la ligne?

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**Author:** ![sven](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.silverfin.com/sven/32/1495_2.png) [@sven](https://community.silverfin.com/u/sven)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://community.silverfin.com/t/placeholder-vs-default/27/2 "2017-01-25T15:09:28Z")

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Hello @s.devers,

Thanks for posting your question. As you can see, we answer only in English, if you don’t mind.

If I understand your question, you are trying to find something like this :

````auto
+ line 1
+ line 2 
+ line 3
{% endcapture %}```

```{% input custom.some.field as:text default:standard %} ```

So you need to capture your text with the logic-tag {% capture %} {% endcapture %} and than you can use the name of the capture as your 'default'. 

Is this the answer you are looking for?
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**Author:** ![s.devers](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.silverfin.com/s.devers/32/38_2.png) [@s.devers](https://community.silverfin.com/u/s.devers)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://community.silverfin.com/t/placeholder-vs-default/27/3 "2017-01-25T15:33:50Z")

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Thank you Sven,

Sorry my English isn’t very good. I prefer to ask the questions in French and you answer me in English (if you agree) 😉

But if you want to translate my questions in English for the community, no worries.

For my problem, it doesn’t solve…

> ```
> {% capture capture_textarea5 %}
> • Après la clôture de l’exercice, l’ouverture de faillite du client <nom du client> situé à <adresse> et dont le numéro de TVA est le <xxx> a été prononcée. La créance sur ce client s’élève à un montant de <xxx,xx> €.
> • Nouveau / Perte client important
> • Faillite d’un fournisseur / client important
> • Cession / Acquisition d’une participation
> • Condamnation au tribunal / litige en cours
> {% endcapture %}
> {% input custom.articles.textarea5 as:text default:capture_textarea5 %}
> 
> ```

If instead of “default”, I use “placeholder”, it becomes a string again. Same result as without the use of “capture”.

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**Author:** ![Tim](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.silverfin.com/tim/32/1304_2.png) [@Tim](https://community.silverfin.com/u/Tim)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://community.silverfin.com/t/placeholder-vs-default/27/4 "2017-01-26T22:08:12Z")

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Hi @s.devers,

I looked into this and I could reproduce the problem. I investigated further and found that we indeed don’t convert the newlines for the placeholder. I logged it in our system, and it should be solved latest by Monday.

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**Author:** ![sven](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/community.silverfin.com/sven/32/1495_2.png) [@sven](https://community.silverfin.com/u/sven)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2017, 3:01pm UTC](https://community.silverfin.com/t/placeholder-vs-default/27/5 "2017-04-03T15:01:23Z")

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Closed on April 3, 2017, 3:01pm UTC